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Saturday 08/13/05

On Thursday, August 4, after the art walk in Mukilteo, I had my beard zapped by my good friend Dr. Warren Magnus at his new clinic Maia Skin. The laser he used was a Candela GentleLase.

I have always had trouble with my beard. Whenever I shave it close, even with an electric razor, I always get "shaving bumps" (ingrown hairs). The worst of these can take months to subside. For this reason I shave clean only on special occasions. Most of the rest of the time I use the trimmer on my electric razor to give myself a fashionable stubble. And even that sometimes results in ingrown hairs.

I hate shaving with a passion. For years I've been saying that if there was a pill that would make all my hair fall out permanently, I'd take it just to never have to shave again, even if it meant losing every single hair on my body as collateral damage.

Laser hair removal is not for everyone, but I am nearly an ideal candidate: I have light skin and dark hair. This means the hair can absorb the energy from the laser, but the skin reflects the light -- so a fairly high-energy setting can be used to zap the hair without burning my skin. People with darker skin have to use lower laser settings to avoid burning the skin, and that means hair removal requires more treatments. Laser hair removal will not work if your beard is light or, in most cases, red, despite what some clinics claim. I have a few gray hairs in my beard and the laser will never get them; I'll have to keep pulling them or, if they become too annoying, possibly have electrolysis on them.

The laser only kills follicles that are actively growing hair at the time of treatment. (Hair growth does not happen continuously; at any given time, some follicles are "resting.") For this reason, it is necessary to have multiple treatments -- probably four or five in my case. My next one will be in early September.

There is some discomfort to the treatment, but it is certainly not intolerable. I was given no anesthetic or pain reliever and really needed none. The discomfort was worst along the jawline, which is one of the more sensitive areas. The GentleLase squirts you with a cool liquid before zapping you, and this seems to help. It took less than a hundred individual laser pulses to treat my entire beard area. (I elected to leave my mustache area untreated.)

Afterward, I had some redness that lasted for about a day. It felt like a sunburn. There is also a distinct scent of singed hair -- I shaved the next day to help get rid of some of that. The smell is not noticeable to others unless they are right next to your face, but you will notice it occasionally for the first few days.

Hair continues to grow out after the treatment -- even out of the dead follicles. About a week after the treatment, however, the singed hair gets completely pushed out and begins falling out or coming loose with gentle tugging. At this point, the follicles that have been successfully zapped will not regrow hair ever again.

I seem to be one of the few straight men having laser hair removal on my beard. Most people who have the treatment are male transsexuals wanting to lose this secondary sexual characteristic, or post-menopausal women who have developed unwanted facial hair. So I thought I'd post my experiences to illustrate how regular guys can benefit from this procedure too. If you hate shaving, check it out. I'll let everyone know how the second and subsequent sessions go.

Continue to first update

Re: laser beard removal

There are 60 messages in this thread, displayed in the order they were posted.

Keith 8/15/2005 10:15:51 AM Pacific

Fascinating. You should do a photo study of the results.
Martin 8/17/2005 3:19:42 PM Pacific
I know the feeling all too well Jerry.

I get ingrowing hairs all the time - I'm sick of it. Some of them are as thick as pencil leads, with horrible grissle on the ends when they eventually come out.

I'm of a strawberry/fair hair colour and complexion, so I'm not sure it will work on me.

Jerry Kindall 8/17/2005 3:23:17 PM Pacific
What's really kind of funny is that the marketing for laser hair removal is all geared toward women. Admittedly, only recently have lasers really become available that are suitable for using on the face, but still, I think a clinic that focused on men could do quite well.
allenrc@earthlink.net 8/20/2005 3:08:00 PM Pacific
I've heard that, for the first several treatments, your beard is supposed to look very weird and uneven (because the laser only kills a portion of the follicles each time and it is unable to kill them in a 'symmetrical' fashion). Consequently, I was told that I'd have to sort of hibernate for several months because my 5 o'clock shadow would look patchy/botchy and peculiar. What has been your experience? Also, I've heard that the entire process could take up to 12 months with some people (as little as 3 or 4 with others)... have they given you any feel for what it might be in your case? I agree with Keith... would love it if you could post some pictures!
Jerry Kindall 8/20/2005 3:11:06 PM Pacific
I should have taken pictures before my first treatment, but I'll be sure to take some before each of the other ones.

Yeah, my beard's getting a little patchy already and probably looks a little odd. I'm told it'll probably take me about five treatments. Touchups are free for a year after that, in case some comes back.

Mark Balelo 8/25/2005 11:50:01 PM Pacific
Hi Jerry. I am now going for my third treatment for the laser hair removal. I broke out pretty bad after my second treatment, but it is getting back to normal now. My first treatment was unnoticeable. My hair continue to grow regularly and I continued to shave 1-2 times per day. My second treatment I definately notice a difference after a week but during the treatment I had to change lasers because I could not tolerate the pain. I was given a very large amount of lidocaine, valium, codine.... I still could not handle the pain. It was an extremely painful experience. I had to change to a lower laser beam. Even with the lower laser beam, it was still painful. Because of my lack of tolerance for pain in my face area I will problably need few extra treatments. I really don't care, because the ultimate result is what I am looking for = (Not having to shave again!!!). So hopefully within the next 6-12 months I can accomplish that. In regards to laser hair removal, it is different for every person. However, the goals can be achieved with time. I in particular, don't have a lot of hair in other areas of my body. But, just like my dad, my beard was really bad. The hair would grow thick, strong and constantly. Because my type of work (Director of Sales), I always had to shave. Sometimes I had to shave twice per day. I now only shave once a day or two and just in the chin area. The amount of hair is very minimal compared to before. I am looking forward to not having to shave ever again. I will tell you how my third treatment goes.

Sincerely,

Mark Balelo

kristin 8/26/2005 5:13:33 PM Pacific
Hi. I have had 11 lazer treatments, and after ALL that I still have half my beard! AND...its getting thicker everyweek. And they told me 3-5 treatments because i was their bestcase type; dark thick hair and light complection. And they hit me hard, with a 28 setting. We used a Litesheer lazer...aledgedly oneof the best. AND no freebies...500.00 each visit. What arethey charging you? Have they had much success with males at this place?? I think I was my Docs first transgendered guinna pig!! I hope you have much better luck then I. Thanks, Kristin
Jerry Kindall 8/26/2005 5:19:10 PM Pacific
I'm getting a really good price precisely because I am a guinea pig here, and plus the doctor's a longtime friend.

It's my understanding, Mark, that the Candela GentleLase is just about the least painful laser on the market. Assuming that's not what you're already using, you might try finding a place that has one and see if you tolerate it any better. The GentleLase sprays you with a little puff of coolant just before zapping you.

Jerry Kindall 8/28/2005 2:25:38 AM Pacific
I went Googling for information on the Litesheer laser and found this. Notice they put "pain free" in scare quotes. It's like a grocer who advertises "fresh" fish.
Mark Balelo 9/2/2005 9:25:56 PM Pacific
I feel for Kristin. I haven't paid near as much as Kristin, but price is not the issue for me, results are. I can't imagine that after 11 treatments you have unsatisfactory results. Maybe you have to change doctors. There are several types of laser machine and maybe they're not using the best that suit your needs... I also understand that is different for every person, but 11 treatments is a lot.

Sincerely,

Mark Balelo

Dave Myers 9/14/2005 6:53:30 AM Pacific
I am 35 years old & have suffered from large numbers of ingrowing hairs , the problem seems to be increasing with my age which is quite concerning , as well as being unsightly there is also constant considerable pain & discomfort , i think this is an acceptable solution although i now have as many white / grey hairs as dark ones so it dous not sound like a solution for me.
kristin 10/1/2005 3:58:47 PM Pacific
OK...gave up on the laser. I had my first IPL treatment yesterday. WAY...let me repeat...WAY less pain! (of course, lets see some results!) It is also cheaper. It is ALSO the only method that can treat my ver growing amount of gray hairs. AND its cheaper too. The usual shedding starts in about 10 days...so I'll et a know. Kristin
k west 3/20/2006 1:29:07 AM Pacific
Following Jerry's lead I had my first lightsheer session at a place here in the UK. Like Jerry I am amazed that more men dont get their beards zapped...It was a bit painful but tolerable. I think the degree of pain relates to the density of hairs you have..not on your pain tolereance btw...some have more some less.

I am pleased to say that the lasering worked...straight away!..I can see clear patches already..but the downside is that although after the treatment it looked OK..by day 2 and 3 my skin was red, and sore, and I had these acne like spots (22 to be exact) mainly around my chin area. By Day 5 they were calming down but i reckon it will take 10 days to get back to mormal..

So, here I am at Day 6 post zap..I am hoping it wont be too patchy..why..? ...I never told my partner I was doing it...! He who dares...?

Jordan 3/28/2006 3:13:50 PM Pacific
man i had some electrolysis done on my face with the laser an dat ish did not work in fact it scabbed up an looked bad like 2 weeks later an took a few weeks to completely heal...it was very painful to
JeanD 3/31/2006 1:50:34 PM Pacific
In regard to the laser beard removal. I'm currently considering doing it, the density of my beard is quite impressive so I'm guessing this will be painful. I think I'm a good candidate for that, my skin is ghostly white and my hairs are dark, with some white and grey here and there. I'd like to hear from you Jerry (and others who also did it) if you are satisfied with the results? Was it painful? Have you lost touch sensations, actually I'm woundering if the fact that all hairs of an area are gone change something to your sensations? Has you skin changed color because of the laser to be whiter or darker than it should be?

Thanks a lot for the info.

miguel A 4/29/2006 10:25:39 PM Pacific
In regard to laser hair treatment, I had my entire face done especially my mustache, because my job requires me to be clean shaven. My first treatment cost 543 dollars, and it was worth it, because a huge reduction in my hair was noticeable after 6 weeks. The first three weeks were the worst in my life, I was so scared that my face was permanently ruined, because after the second day, It became red and sore and developed white dots that looked like acne. In addition, the skin will chap and develop a dark layer, which you really can shave that well. After the third week, some of the hair began to gradually fall out, and eventually my skin was begining to get lighter, and most of the dark dead hair began falling out. After 5 weeks I went back and got a second treatment, but this time just on my mustache, because it was not as light as I wanted it. I was charged 121 dollars for the mustache above and below my lip area. The setting of the laser was 18Joules which was not too bad, the first treatment the laser was set at 16Joules. My suggestions to anyone interested, is to be sure you have plenty of time so you can miss work, because regardless of what you read, most people will become red, sore, and breakout on the facial area. You will not look very handsome for at least 4 weeks. However, It is worth it for me, the thing I was most scared of was scarring, but no significant scars occurred, I do have some very light spots from the laser zapping, but these to are begining to fade, and they are not noticeable unless someone really uses a microscope to look at my face. Overall, I rarely shave now, and my skin looks younger and healthier, I have a greater self confidence, because my mustache is not so noticeable on my face. I dont like dark mustaches, and I have been really getting lots of dates since my treatment. Women just want to date me and go out with me, since now they see me as a cute guy with a baby face, but with a mans appearance and in very good shape.
Jimmy 5/21/2006 3:12:42 PM Pacific
I had 4 or 5 laser tretament on the mustache, because I thought it was too dark and I looked not cleanly shaven even just after shaving. At the end of the day, it was even worse. It is to pointed out that indeed even with the best and most recent material -which makes the process not a pleasure but bearable- after the treatment you have to deal with visible effects on the skin (acne like spots, redness, etc,...) so it is better to do it when you do no have to work. That is true for the firtst week. The second week is better but still not perfect, even if you can go back to work. The result is pretty good, but I will probably need a last one. Last, to be noted that on the neck, the effect can be quite radical just after the first treatment (complete disappearance of existing hair in my case, although should come back, which is good because I did not want a total lack of hair).
charles 5/24/2006 12:09:47 AM Pacific
I did laser hair removal on my shoulders and it was pretty successful. However, I then tried it on my beard which is extremely thick and dark, but did not have the same success. I laser treated my beard three times over 2-3 months. First, the beard looked really bad for a week after treatment. and then, the hair fell out in blotches. i went again to get rid of the remaining hair, but with the same results. I'm still waiting for hair to grow back in certain dry patches on the neck portion of my beard. any suggestions
Shakir 6/4/2006 1:20:23 PM Pacific
I had a laser treatment on my beard about 2 years ago. It was so painful that I didn't go back since. After the treatment I had these red spots all over my face and later they turned dark. They remained on my face for months. The worst time in my life. But before the treatment I had facial hair all over my face and now it's in a conventional shape. I'm thinking for going back today. But I"m a little scared about those red and dark spots on my face.
kim 7/8/2006 11:12:06 AM Pacific
I've had lots of light sheer beard removal laser. It always "clears" my face but in time grows back--but as others say, in spots. It gets some of the hairs "permanently" and in other places, the whiskers grow back with a vengance. They say that's how it works, and you just have to keep coming back. They charge about one thousand dollars an hour to run their laser here at advanced laser in ann arbor, so it gets pricey (at about half an hour to do the whole beard). They say to do six treatments and they will guarantee full clearing for two years, or followup treatments are free. This means you have to keep going back, and it hurts. It also means it isn't permanent, if the quarantee isnt permanent. but it does do a good job of clearing each time I go. Now I have a fairly blotchy beard if I let it grow. If I shave, I look very cleanshaven
Simran 7/19/2006 6:10:26 AM Pacific
hey,

I hate to shave and i have been looking for a solution other than laser as this costs alot but there are home laser treatments aswell like the riolaser system which costs £99 in UK money but i have no idea if any male has used this i wanted to find out if there are any other systmes machines even pills which will get rid of my facail hair for good i have recentley WAXED yes waxed my face and boy it does hurt but i got used to it so im sure netin else cant be as bad as waxing my face seems much better i mean no one likes stubble and now there ist any green shadow either but under neck hair is jus two hard to wax as well as chin but cheeks were fine if anyone can help with solutions pls email me rsmastani@aol.com

JK in San Fran 7/29/2006 5:35:46 PM Pacific
Yes, I bought a package of 6 full face laser treatments for $600. (70% discount). It was a friend of a friend's practice and they are just renting the laser, so after 6 months I need to get al 6 treatments in.

I don't know why but I thought it would be painless. Boy was I wrong. I had waxed my face in the past and that was maybe the most pain I have ever felt. I have fallen out of 2 story windows and it hurt less. The laser was just slightly less then all of them. I have black metal wires growing from my face and lighter skin.

I do have some of the same reactions as described. Red zebra like streaks across my face. Darker looking singed hair that is unshaveable after like 3 days. I tried and it makes it look worse. It has been about 3 days and I might do a cucumber/ aloe soothing pack.

I think maybe 1 week from know I will use a light scrub so I don't get breakouts. I am a male esthetician so I can professionally suggest a light scrub with jojoba beads. Don't use a scrub with nut shells in it as it will be too abraisive to your tender skin.

But I am glad to here many other men are having the same reactions as me. I just wonder it sounds as if though it may not be a permanent solution?

If it is a permanent solution just remember the reason men's faces age better than most womens is because we are constantly exfoliating our skin by shaving. If it is in fact permanent then remember to use a light scub bi-daily to make up for not shaving. This will ensure gracefull aging later on down the line.

Any comments?

sorya chan 8/3/2006 11:45:33 AM Pacific
Hi! every body on this board, thanks for all the posts, it's very informative and helpful. I'm in my mid 30, i'm an oriental man. To my surprise, i have a fair amount of facial hairs including beard and mustache. I have a dark facial hairs and light skin of the oriental descent. I hate shaving and the ingrown hairs associated with it. I'm considering having a laser beard removal. Does anybody out there known or heard any asian guy having this kind of treatment done. Any information posts will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
JK in San Fran 8/5/2006 11:37:41 AM Pacific
I know many Asian women that have had thier underarms done and thier downtowns too. I have heard good results from the "Aurora/Elos laser". This laser has multi ethnic settings.

More update on my own treatment. I broke out major my first week after treatment with many burns and ingrowns. I found a "light" appliaction nightly scrub with microderm crystals followed by a soothing allow mask helped a lot. Now it is a week later and everything s all good one week later.

Cheers...

sorya chan 8/9/2006 6:22:20 PM Pacific
Thanks JK for the reply and following up with your treatment. I live in the SEATTLE area. I've been doing research around to find out a good place that has done this kind of treatment and has achieved good results. For you, JK, what type of laser have you been using and at what setting stage to treat the beard area. How many treatments have you had so far and what are the results. Do you see a great reductions of hairs in the treated area or you still shave as regular? I heard that it take 5 to 6 treatments to achieve the permanent result. Wishing you the best of luck and let's us know your up-to-date results.
Joe Schmo 8/12/2006 9:26:36 PM Pacific
I am 20 years old and have had a nasty redneck looking crustash shadow for a couple of years now. It is significantly darker and thicker than the rest of my beard and I'm about sick of it. I've seen a few posts with success in lasering the mustache region. Since I'm lasering such a small area, who thinks that it would leave a patchy shadow behind? I am really looking to not completely remove the hair but lighten and thin it out significantly. How many treatments do you all think this would take?
JK in SF 8/13/2006 3:05:09 PM Pacific
Hi yes, Joe Schmo. If you just want to lighten the thickness of hair and you are not looking for a permanent solution.

Then why not just wax? it is cheaper..... And it will thin out hair after a few waxings. If you are really daring you can wax it yourself. I will admit waxing your moustache will hurt like h*ll. I did it once or twice by myself and I bleed bad!

Sora Chan, I have only had one treatment with the Aurora/ Elos laser. It has been almost three weeks. I am really impressed. Sahving is easier. Just one pass over an area instead of four. My 5:00 shaodw grows back a lot slower and I can honestly say I have close to half the hair on my face I used to have. And after only one treatment.

I was a bit scared it would have no effect, but I guess I am ideal for teratment. Lighter skin and really dark thck facail hair.

Cheers,
-JK

Mark Johnson 9/10/2006 7:24:36 PM Pacific
I have had it done and they are making improvements. You are going to get some redness. My suggestion is to have them numb your face or take some kind of medication and then it is bareable. If your beard is thick you are going to have some regrowth particularly around the chin but it will be easier to shave and less normal. Really the downside if any is that if you are say 35 or older you might not have always realized the aging process meaning I noticed a few lines, etc I had due to age but it was worth it.
sorya chan 9/17/2006 1:56:31 PM Pacific
Good news, Mark, would you please, tell me what kind of laser have you had it done, at what setting and how many times have you had so far? How long did the redness stay after lasering? did you buy a whole packet for 5 to 6 treatments or you had it done on a walk in basis? Thanks for your reply.

Chan

Dave 10/12/2006 8:05:01 AM Pacific
I just had laser removal done on my neck to reduce ingrown hairs. I am in the military and have to shave all the time. I have lighter skin and very dark, thick facial hair. I was going to do my entire face but pussed out. Its been three days since i had it done and the results all alright. I read all these entries before considering and decided to go for it. Here are my results so far:

1st day, skin was red and rasied slightly and areas zapped where clearly seen.

2nd day, skin was slightly red, no rasied areas but small pimples like razor burn apeared in some areas.

3rd day, skin is barley red ( i can tell where the laser was used mostly because it is my face), razor burn pimples are 90% gone.

I was given lotion to apply as needed and that seems to be doing the trick. As far as shaving the next day is out of the question. Its been 3 days and i haven't shaved yet and will hold out as long as I can (which will have to be Saturday Morning, so 6 days after). The place and others, have saif you can but I am affarid it would slow the healing process down.

I went back to the work the next day and no one has said anything yet, then again it my face so i notice marks and redness more then anyone else would.

if interseted i will share more updates because this was a hard decission to make but thoughts of not having to shave while deployed sounded to good.

vladimir deslouches 10/17/2006 4:28:48 PM Pacific
h i my name is vladimir iam looking to have laser beards removal because every times i shaved i couldn't lookingat my face the nextday please help me but there is a problem iam a black man brown skin butmy beards started grey now please hepl
Michael Conroy 10/26/2006 3:20:19 AM Pacific
Hi my name is Michael and I suffer from breakouts all over the shaving area. My doctor has told me this is as a result of shaving rash and not necessarily acne.I constantly get yellow pimples a day after shaving. My skin is very sensitive and dry and as a result can't shave every day otherwise my skin would be destroyed.I am thinking of laser treatment so as to end the torture of shaving. What do you think?
sorya chan 10/27/2006 10:38:29 PM Pacific
Thanks for the information, Dave. Please, do share some more update while the process takes and how the result turn out to be. especially when you go on with the entire face. I think that is the smart decision that you decided to go with your neck first. I heard that American laser center did good job with 2 years guarrante of no hair growing after treatment. Did anyone else out there had experiences with the Americna laser center.

Chan

Josh 11/5/2006 7:33:55 PM Pacific
Hi, my name is Josh. I am a ridiculously good-looking hispanic young man and have an extremely thick and dense black beard. It's always been like torture having to shave my face. I would have to shave every 3 to 4 days because my face is so so sensitve(and beautiful). So after two years of careful thought as well as research I decided to do it and found a respectable laser clinic an hour from where I live. So, I went to that clinic to get more information. My main worry was that I would get those white pimple-like bumps all over your face. Cuz like I said earlier, I have a good looking face and the thought of having filled with pimples for two weeks after the treatment did not appeal to me at all. But they told me that it would not happen, that my face would only be red for a couple of hours after each treament. So I thought, ok, let's do this . The clinic provided 7 treatments for $1,200 which is a good price for that package and the laser they would be using is a Sonata laser.

Anyway, I stayed away from the sun for two weeks and then had my first treatment on September 15. And first of all, they said to me that it would feel a rubber band snap when they laser shot those hot beams of light onto my face. Well, let me teeeeellll you...it did not. It felt like a laser was shooting hot beams of light onto my face. The poor lady doing my treatment saw how uncomfortable I was and asked if I wanted to take a break but told her to just keep going cuz I wanted it to be over already. I just sucked it up and just kept thinking of how this would get me closer to never having to shave again. When she finally said it was over I was so happy. She told me how strong I was and that most guys have to take breaks during the treatments but not me. Which made me feel good : ) But anyway, ten minutes later before I left they gave me a mirror, at my request, so I could check out my face. And I must say I did gasp at first..it wasn't beautiful. There were some areas swelled up and it looked I had a slight sunburn. But three hours later it went away.

The next three days my face looked normal and then it started...those ugly little pimples that everybody warned me about. They started to appear all over my face and stayed there for the next 10 days. It was so embarrasing going to work like that. I mean, I felt like I was 14 again going through puberty. But once again I just sucked it up and kept my eyes on the prize(never shaving again). When my face cleared up I noticed that my beard was thinning out and there were some bald spots on my neck and my moustache area. About 10 -15 % of my beard was removed after my first treatment. And more will be be removed with each subsequent treatment. Only thing that stinks is that I have to get the treatments every 4 to 5 months, not 4 to 6 weeks like some clinics do. This means that it will take longer my face to be completely smooth. I will keep you guys posted. Oh, one word of advice to all future candidates...DO NOT SHAVE YOUR FACE WITH A RAZOR FOR AT LEAST 2 WEEKS AFTER EACH TREATMENT. Please trust me on this. It will only make your pimples worse. Use an electric trimmer and let a fashionable stubble form for TWO WEEKS after each treatment. Trust me.

Aron 11/16/2006 10:33:17 PM Pacific
My beard is normal density. I hate shaving my beard and would like to keep it trimmed. My preference would be to have beard that looks very natural. and at the same time off my cheeks and little off my chin. Just like when you get beard when you were early 20s.
Any ideas and recommendations are welcome. I live in San Francisco bay area. Good doctors who are expert in men beard would be appreciated. I have light brown skin with black hair.
Thanks
Aron.
Josh 12/25/2006 4:50:01 PM Pacific
Hey, guys, this is Josh again. Well, it's been three and a half months after my first treatment and I am sad to report that those bald spots that I had on my moustache and on my neck are have disappeared. That's right, new hair has completely filled them and my face now looks exactly as it did before I went in for that first treatment. Man, I'm pretty bummed out right now and am hoping that when I get my second treatment in January the results are better and hopefully "permanent". I was told that you only really see the results after your 3rd treatment but that is in June. If anybody experienced similar results after their first treatment let me know. my email is hottamale3232@hotmail.com
luiz 2/2/2007 12:02:39 PM Pacific
Hi. I write from Brazil, and I'm sad to not have seen this forum before. In last Diciembre I did one aplication of Light sheer laser in my beard. I didn't have the intention to do more than one aplication. But I'm afraid I'll have to!
I have now "islands" of beard on my chin, and it looks like spots, as others said. What shall I do? Others aplications? Won't it be worst?
I don't want to spend more money and fell more pain (that's the worst i've ever felt). But if it is necessary...
Thank you, if you can help me.
I'm weird in Carnival period, and I can't go to the beach because I can't have sun (that is specially strong this year).
I did other aplication in my back that were very well sucessful. But in the beard I don't sugestt to anyone. my email is luizttt@bol.com.br
luiz 2/12/2007 12:11:20 PM Pacific
I want my beard back!
Joe 3/22/2007 12:35:14 PM Pacific
Well, you can always go to romeo and juliet hair removal in NYC. It's on E 57th st. $350 for full face/neck, or $150 for the Gotee area. I've been alternating... My mustache area especially is very stubbern.
Shenoy 5/21/2007 10:40:20 AM Pacific
Hi,
I have a mediumbrown skin with darkhair.Iwent formy laser beardremovalevery 4 weeks. I have completed 4 treatmentssofar.Iseeabout 20%reduction sofar. But, AFTER MY 4TH TREATMENT RECENTLY,i BROKEOUT PRETTY BAD WITH WHITEHEADS (white acne pimples) all over my moustache and chin areaand neck.Peopleat work were staring at me as if I was suffering from chickenpox.Man,that was the most embarrasing time of my life. Now,I have decided not to go back for my 2 more treatments. I can tolerate having hair over ugly pimples/whiteheads anyday. Well,itcouldbe my sensitive skin.
John 12/19/2007 6:54:52 PM Pacific
Interesting. I see that I'm not the only guy who had a horrible time with shaving and ingrown hairs and then thought to get laser hair REDUCTION. Let me just say to those people out there who are doing this or considering doing this to think long and hard about it. In my view this laser hair removal procedure is a total SCAM!! I speak from experience, I have had a total of 16 sessions with the laser at a cost of thousands of dollars and my face is anything but clear..I still have continual growth but now it comes in patchy where I HAVE to shave everyday or look like a freak! Shaving everyday causes irritation that I didn't have when I could grow a bread out for a day or two, so not only did it not cure the problem of ingrown hairs it made it worse! I regret everyday that I had this idea and wonder if there is some kind of male hormone or something to make my facial hair grow back. Good luck to the people who try this, but if I were you I would buy a good razer and deal with bleeding and shaving bumps, or grow out your stubble and adopt the 5 o'clock shadow look. I wish I had. :(
John 12/19/2007 6:55:52 PM Pacific
Interesting. I see that I'm not the only guy who had a horrible time with shaving and ingrown hairs and then thought to get laser hair REDUCTION. Let me just say to those people out there who are doing this or considering doing this to think long and hard about it. In my view this laser hair removal procedure is a total SCAM!! I speak from experience, I have had a total of 16 sessions with the laser at a cost of thousands of dollars and my face is anything but clear..I still have continual growth but now it comes in patchy where I HAVE to shave everyday or look like a freak! Shaving everyday causes irritation that I didn't have when I could grow a bread out for a day or two, so not only did it not cure the problem of ingrown hairs it made it worse! I regret everyday that I had this idea and wonder if there is some kind of male hormone or something to make my facial hair grow back. Good luck to the people who try this, but if I were you I would buy a good razer and deal with bleeding and shaving bumps, or grow out your stubble and adopt the 5 o'clock shadow look. I wish I had. :(
wai 2/5/2008 10:18:31 AM Pacific
I just had my 1st treatment last Thursday. but I don't see any difference... it's painful, but I think I can take it. actually I would like to know how many days should I start seeing any difference? I'm afraid that this is just a scam... =(
AA 2/29/2008 11:11:25 PM Pacific
John - I'm in the same situation as you almost exactly. Have you figured any way to help the bald spots on the beard regrow? Have you asked any dermatologists if anything can be done?

For everyone else - laser removal of the beard is a bad idea. The hair will regrow slowly and unevenly and your face will be patchy.

Black Guy 3/22/2008 9:51:34 PM Pacific
I'm a dark-skinned black guy and my beard is also very dark. I hear that the best treatment is for light-skinned men with dark beards. However, I have been recently hearing that there is also a new laser specifically for black guys. Does anyone know if this new technology really works for black men? As some of you might be aware, black men have the worst cases of in-grown hairs and I am one of them. I would just be ecstatic to get rid of this bothersome beard for good.
Paul Brax 4/2/2008 3:51:55 AM Pacific
I hate shaving with a passion and iam wondering how i can remove this beards which makes me feel

very uncomfortable shaving and the after affects of ingrown hairs. Iam a Black man leaving in Uganda

and would like to get rid of this permanently, so can some out there be of any help to me?

Ionutcelgroaznic 4/15/2008 10:27:33 PM Pacific
Hey,
I have a theory why people get grid like pattern regrow.Well in case of RF ablation of lung tumors , the blood vesels acts like cooling devices and prevent tumors from being cooked up.It is possible that the grid like pattern regrow in case of laser treatment to be determined by underlying blood vessels that protect those area from being properly zaped.So the only method that can remove those hairs is galvanic or blend electrolysis.
andrew 5/9/2008 4:05:23 PM Pacific
well....i have a very white skin and brown hair. i had some treatments too.4! but it was not on all my beard,its was only above my cheeks! well on the 2 first i was very satisfied but now im starting to realy doubt!!! usually the area im treating is not a common area with a lot of beard and only hairy people have beard above the cheeks...what i really want to know if the beard will ever disappear there? also...is at least 1 guy that is really satisfied with his treatment or is just a fake product!!!! :'(

pleas answer soon and good luck!

SM 5/22/2008 7:13:12 AM Pacific
have had 2 treatments and am noticing patches where hair is dead. Been 4 weeks since my first session and a few days since the second. Hair is hard to shave the day or two after treatment but it returns to normal then but with retarded growth. Bought endless treatments for 2 years so here's hoping. I have thick growth and sallow skin but I can see the difference already. The pain is unbelievable, particularly along jawline and moustache.
andrew 5/23/2008 4:11:12 AM Pacific
is there anyone who had more than 12 or so treatments to tell us his results?
abc 5/26/2008 7:43:56 AM Pacific
Do not get laser beard removal! I have had have had 4 treatemnts and the hair keeps growing back. Luckily I have had enought regrowth that it doesn't look as bad as some other clients. I am not going for my 5th treatment session. Please do not be fooled by the "technicians" in the clinic. They are just salesmen trying to get you to buy a "service." Has anyone discontinued treatement and seen pretty good regrowth?
adrew 5/28/2008 11:45:06 AM Pacific
is there anyone who had more than 12 or so treatments to tell us his results?
Marco 6/2/2008 6:04:29 AM Pacific
Hi,

I am a young 20 year old male from the UK and i have just finished a course of 12, YES 12 laser hair removal treatments. My feelings are this - after 12 i DID notice a permanent reduction in hair growing on my face. The thing is, its still growing back! When i initially went in for my consultation, i was told 12 treatments should do it, clearly not!

My hair growth is really patchy, it grows back really slow, but the fact remains - the beard is still there! After paying about £1300 for the 12 month course of treatments, i have been told another 12 should do it? I have been for my 13 treatment now and the growth is still slow and patchy, but now im considering whether to give it all up or not? Will i REALLY see my beard gone - or am i just about to waste another grand on something that really wont work??

FEEDBACK APPRECIATED!!

abc 6/3/2008 7:47:51 AM Pacific
anyone interested in talking to some who had 12 treatmetns just has to go to youtube.com and type in "laser beard remvol." there is a video there of someone who had 12 and still has patchiness. I only had 4 but now they are "splotches" that are slowly growing in. Within a year i will be back to normal and i will not complain about shaving. yes it hurts and causes skin irritation and whiteheads but that is part of being a man. Anyone who thinks they are supposed to be clean shaven all the time just has to look at photos of celebs when they are not on camera and have not had makeup and been air brushed. DO NOT GET LASER BEARD REMOVAL. IT IS A SCAM. IT GROWS BACK SLOWLY.
nico 6/7/2008 7:16:58 AM Pacific
yeah its ard to remove beard..its hormons who make it grow its not like hair or hair on hte legs...hiar on legs grow to a given length and then stop..beard can grow with no limit.this proves tha its very hard to remove it. but saw a website about a transexual that did 23 treatments in 2 years and was rid of the facial beard!!!
justin 7/3/2008 6:43:26 PM Pacific
i believe, and i want your opinion on this..that12 treatment for beard removal is clearly not enought even if clinics say so! They say so because it would be too much money for more than 11 treatments..although i think that 20 -25 tratment might make you rid of your beard...what do you think about that?
Joe 7/7/2008 8:37:38 PM Pacific
HI - i have just had my 4th treatment - the first two grew back to an almost normal thickness - the third treatment left me with stripes - lets hope this one will be a little better. you have to tell the person to make sure they overlap at least 50% - i think that will reduce the splotches, lines, etc. i hope she overlapped as i requested
i am doing this because i want a total reduction - i really hate that it appears that i need to shave all the time, even when my skin is smooth - there is just so much hair under the skin i guess.

it hurts - it is insane how much it hurts - it doesnt feel like a rubber band snapping you, it feels like i am being stabbed over and over with a bar room dart.
i do have several acne looking blemmishes - i got the treatment a week ago - they showed up a few days after the treatment

i would suggest that you get it done as early as possible - i'm 36 - i wish i got this done 20 years ago

i'm not sure if i will continue the treatments until its completely gone, but if i have the continued uneveness, which i fear, i will have to keep going

remember to do your best to stay out of the sun before you go

another thing - do your best to try and pull out the hairs with tweezers a few days after treatment - hopefully anyone who gets this treatment will not have to report to work for several days afterward, at least wont have to shave - your skin will hate you if you dont give it several days rest!!

justin 7/14/2008 4:45:54 PM Pacific
so there arent people that tried it for more than 20? everyone gave up before that number? but why? where they too disappointed or rid off their hair!?
BJ 8/1/2008 4:07:41 PM Pacific
what causes the darkness on the facial skin after shaving? it subsides after a few days, but still have the dark streaks along jaw, cheek bone area and the upper lip area. nothing i do gets rid of it.
Matt 8/6/2008 3:34:06 PM Pacific
Excellent!! Thank you for putting the information on the internet, informative, honest and easy to follow, I'm off to book my first appointment!!

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